13 August 2009 - 13:00
Faster than a Veyron?
American tuning firm Hennessey is best known for doing silly things to Cadillacs, Corvettes and Dodges. But now it is readying a supercar of its own, which it plans to bring to the Geneva Motor Show in production form next March.
Sticking to the old mantra that any start-up supercar manufacturer with no track record must make a whole bunch of borderline implausible claims about your car's likely performance, Hennessey has made a whole bunch of borderline implausible claims about its car's likely performance.
Ready for this? The mid-engined two-seater has been tagged the Venom GT, and will be powered by an as-yet-unspecified V8 putting out ‘up to 1,200bhp'. In a car with a kerbweight less than 1,090kg, Hennessey says that will be good for a 0-60mph time of 2.4 seconds - yep, quicker than a Veyron - and a top speed of 272mph.
Obviously we wouldn't want to encourage an atmosphere of unhealthy scepticism around TopGear.com, but - well, they're some pretty big numbers, ain't they? Anyone willing to put a tenner on the Hennessey Venom GT living up to its rather large promises?
Oh, and anyone spotting more than a passing similarity to the Lotus Exige GT3 racer?
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They say it's a supercar of their own. So why does it look like they've drawn a Lotus?
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i never knew Hennessey tuned up Lotus cars, who'd a thunk it
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not pretty enough for the big numbers. ssc aero also had this flaw.
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how imaginative are Hennessey designers? if i was Lotus i would be cross to say the least!
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Somebody call Ian Callum quick!
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I heard it was an exige with one of their tuned V10 viper engines
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there are already two faster cars then the bugatti veyron. the SSC Ultimate Aero TT and the Mosler MT900 GTR XX Twin Turbo Land Shark
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The ssc does 260mph and the mosler can go to 350 but is limited to 300mph
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mosler land shark is an one-off though, not a production car
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Considering Hennessey's made 1000 hp cars before (Vipers, specifically), I'd say these claims are fairly plausible if they've done their aero right.
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HA! load of rubbish!! are americans really that thick that they cant even think up there own car? its a lotus! just a BIG one. should be called the hennessey lotus BIG edition. and besides the mosler and the ssc, are we all forgetting the little ultima GTR??? the single fastest accelerating and decelerating supercar of all time and multiple world speed record holder. and heres a plus for ya! ITS BRITISH!!!
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Yeah ok it looks like a Lotus but since when was that a bad thing? It looks far better than a Radical or that Devon thing. I don't like the Veyron very much but it just seems like it should keep its title of "King of the supercars" and even though i prefer this one, I don't want it to be better than the Veyron. That sounds strange but never mind
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dam right it sounds strange but wierdly i kinda agree. but i just wish it didnt look like a lotus. i really really wish. because if it didnt then it truly would be brilliant. o yer and your soooo wrong sam_c that "devon thing" is gorgeous
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It IS an Exige. Same bonnet vents, same lights, same roof scoop, same wingmirrors, similar wheelbase... about the only two things different is the side vents and that spoiler.
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It will never do 272 with that rear wing!
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Its an Exige with a big engine, might work, but I dout it
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it is a modified exige, much like the venom is there "own" production car, and it *could* do the stats, but it wouldn't look exactly the same aka smaller spoiler...
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no doubts in my mind they can make the power dray engines do it all the time(granted with extremly high maintance regime) but how do yuo get that on the road in a car with little over 1000kgs to play with. conclusion - no hope, amercian fantasy
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I just don't understand how it can get 1200 bhp out of a V8, and how it will weigh less than 1090kg. Well let's just hope for the best. It'll be an engineering masterpiece if it hits production.
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A lotus exige with a big engine? hmmmm I would say why have 1 V8 when you can have 2 to make a W12 and 1200bhp? well if they deliver what they say, I'll shake their hands but this car will not kill the Veyron NOOOOOO WAY. This is a lightweight car that probably wont even have a CD player look at the interior of the Veyron then compare it to this cars and you'll see why the Veyron is a Magnificent Car
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On second thought, such specs may be true. SSC did similar efforts afterall.
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Picture of a Viper engine in the top-left.. *cough* Maybe we could look into that.
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Lotus should sue their collective asses.
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If it does go as fast as what they claim then Lotus should take a percentage of the profit made. If they fail Lotus should sue them to the extent where they cant make or upgrade cars. Simples
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the car is designed over a lotus exige they have the permission from them to copy the shape and plus its good publicity for them
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Well, it may look like a Lotus, but it sure as hell won't handle like one (I'd know, I've got one).
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i reckon it looks more like an exige but rather a zonda-ish from the back,... does anyone agree?
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So what if it looks like a lotus. People weren't so bitchy when the Jag looked like the Aston, unless your all saying it's a bad thing to look like a Lotus.
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Bugatti Veyron is my favourite car of all time so dont want this to beat it. But even if they make it it will probably wont be a production car like mosler and Ultimate Aero so technically wont count as fastest production car ever. Besides the Ariel Atom 500 should be out soon which could very well blitz this.
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Hah! I love a person to be optimistic, but come on. 272 mph? It looks good though, like an Exige on super-steroids (made up word alert). And looking like a Lotus Exige is NOT a bad thing in any way!
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I actually thought it was a new Lotus Exige until I read the text below.
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The more people who review the Aero SSC the more it looks more stable than anything in that speed class. It is rated stable to 270mph. More stable than hte Veyron and 9ff included. Not much people know the SSC was developed with help from the NASA wind tunnel. Veyron went to some cute testing facility? Bah SSC went to the people who went to the moon.
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Only way it will do a 2.4sec 0-60 is if it is all wheel drive. Or have some massively huge rear tires. If it doesn't, then there's no way it'll get all that power down. The tendancy for a light little car like that with that much power will be to just spin it's tires...
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Hey it is not the first time we Americans still a British body and stick in it a ridiculously powerful engine if this one makes half the impression that the Shelby Cobra did we are in business.
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and who said you couldn't mix a Porsche Carerra GT and a Lotus Exige together... ok maybe you can't still if you have sanity. or eyes. why not get a Ferrari 458 Italia instead?
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why doesnt top gear ever mention the ssc?
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at least the Bugatti LOOKS capable of doing Good Things. Change the Venom's appearance, then I'll like it.
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it isn't so hard to put one million hp in a light car. But it's hard to put 1001 hp in a car and make it go 407kmh while it's smooth and comfortable! Thats achievement.. 1800bhp Skylines and Supras or 1200bhp Aero SSC and Hennesseys don't get my respect, but Veyron does!
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The Veyron has an W12 engine with 2x as much displacement and size as the Aero SSC, which is "only" a forced induction V8. So basically the Bugatti has more bhp and more displacement but only to go slower than the SSC. And the Veyron has a flappy paddle while the SSC has a manual six speed using a custom triple plate clutch, which means you feel the car's power better. And it's twice as cheap putting it in the class where supercars that barely touch 209mph. But status - sold out.
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Sorry ironicalballs. The veyron has a W16 engine not W12
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IronicalBalls, what you and other just don't get is the fact that the engine in the Veyron, the W16 Quad Turbo, might "only" produce 1001bhp but remember it only revs to 6000. I you wanted to, you could make it output 2000bph. Perhaps more. But the fact of the matter is, that when the Veyron has done 100.000 miles, with countless accelerations, 1250nm pulling in the chassis and 4wd system etc, i will still do 0-62mph in 2.5 or less and still do 253 mph top speed and still be as comfortable as any Golf GTI og whatever you wanna compare it with. It is and will always be the ultimate car for it is not comparable with crazy Brabus', Venoms, Vipers og SSC's for that matter. It is a true and genuine car that just happens to be the fastest production in the world. I know you will ramble on about the SSC being this but get this: It's not really a production car.
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... It's more of a kit car or anything resembling that. Veyron also gets my respect. And i've driven it and other fast cars. E.g. i also driven the SLR 722 and that i quick, no doubt about it. But the Veyron is just in a different league in terms of speed, acceleration, stability and that luxury interior. Wow!
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*sniff Sniff* Can anybody else smell lawyer drool? I really hope Lotus call them on this one because I honestly can't see them getting away with this in court. As for the continual babble about the SSC: The SSC is only a highly tuned car barely within the legal limits, its not designed to last for long or hit its top speed more than once or twice between having its engine serviced. That's exactly the same as those 1000hp Skylines, and they have far better interiors. The Veyron is a hypercar, both in terms of speed and in terms of luxury, its got a leather interior and a big sound system for crying out loud. And as for the claim of the SSC being tested in NASA's wind tunnel, lets just remind ourselves what would be tested in that tunnel: Lifting body aircraft (ones without engines) and rockets designed to go up, because when spacecraft are travelling at multiple KM per second - there's no air around them. So NASA's wind tunnel will be no more impressive than anybody else's.
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Hey S.Vibe xuldnt have put it better my self :)
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Would you buy a car from a company known for launching boosted pistons through car bonnets on the motor way?
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you know how in an episode Mr May was going on about the lotus fax, and how they wanted to protect their esprit shape....... hmmm wonder if henners will get a little 'fax' through their 'fax machine' *wink wink nudge nudge* eh? eh? also have any super big, super powerful american cars been really that fast around, you know, a CORNER. a thing where you have to TURN the 'big control' (in hammonds hypnotised words with paul mckenna) it isnt all about top speed. if i am right in saying most of the fastst cars have focussed on not just straight line speed but going round corners. because of that i am not amused. 'nuff said
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Sorry but no matter how much it looks like a Lotus and no matter how much lightness has been added (which is unlikely) it simply does not work aerodynamically. I predict that at around 180 mph the turbulence induced vibration would make it impossible to control.
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"Right guys lets design a car", "I'll get the tracing paper" "Ok, Steve I want you to pick some random numbers,... what's that?..., 1200, 1090 and 2.4... excellent, I'll write them down"
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I would like to see a head to head with the Venom GT and the Buggati Veyron against Red Victor one. Performance and power against money all very powerful cars.
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I don't think it will be that fast because it's only a lotus
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does this look suspiciously like the lotus evora to anyone?
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when i saw it i thought it was a lotus, just tuned to be faster than a Veyron
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it looks like a lotus in the front and that long back looks like a porshe carra gt
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Who actually thinks they'll make that car and if they do how can a car with a V8 do 272mph and the Bugatti with a W16 only do 253mph??? PS How much would it cost if they made it too???
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We need to remember there is precident for taking a british body and stuffing american horsepower into the chassis. Can anyone say "Cobra"? However a lot of body mods and chassis mods went into the 427 model, with AC's blessing. I expect they can engineer the 1000 hp into the chassis. In terms of styling clones, hasn't anybody noticed that a lot of current 4 door sedans look alike? Check out the following: Accord, Altima, BMW 3 series, the new Taurus. You will find styling queues copied all over the place.
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that car has been tuned so then a buggatti could be tuned to an equal extent and be better. the other thing is that the bugatti was specifically made to cope with the speed and act as a gt car this is one of those flimsy fast cars.
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it looks like a heavly tunned lotus racer the veyron looks nicer for one but canit actuily do the speed it says and what if they make a racing version
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No, no, a lotus looks much better. i wonder how there going to get a v8 to pump out 1200bhp... even a v10 F1 car gets little more than 800 and you've seen what they need to do to start it. nor does the body look amazingly aerodynamic. i doubt it will be as good as the veryon either, the veyron has a great interior as well as exquisite styling
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Still the fastest production car in the world is the brabus tkr. Top speed 430 KM/hr, 0-62 MPH in 1.67 secs.
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Amurika fck yeah! I'm sorry, but those wannabes do not deserve a reasonable comment.
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I've done my research on Hennessey and they may have something here. Hennessey is a car tuning company that make cars w/ already plenty of horsepower and squeeze more power out of the cars. they have jeeps w/ 1000bhp and Saleen S7s w/ 2000 bhp and Ford GTs w/ 1200 bhp. Now I know for a fact that Hennessey works on GM, Ford, and crystler cars. So it could have a 5.5, 6.1, or a 7.7L v8 with who knows how many turbos or superchargers it may have. and if Koeinzegg can squeeze 800bhp out of a 4.3L v8, then hennessey may be telling the truth
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well if its faster than veyron , maybe because of the body weight...the Veyron has more weight than this Lotus and compared to Veyron , lotus only had V8 engine and Veyron had W16 engine which is i think will be more faster than any car :D
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It is just an Exige GT3, with a tacky Hennessey sticker on the windscreen, and a bigger engine
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it is based on the exige. they widened the car and made it longer to take the viper v10. and of course they can get those hp figures. i've seen evos online with 970 hp from their little 2.0 so a viper's 8.4 will be able to do 1200 easily. are people retarded on this forum?
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I see Lotus, Porsche GT, Mclaren F1. I would not be that shocked if they made a faster car then the Veyron at all. The Ultimate Aero did it. I'm gonna get a lot of crap about this, but the Veyron is a power house with a name, and when someone else does better then its going to have to be compared to the Veyron before anything else. Oh and this looks better then the Veyron in my personal opinion.
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Audi TT Roadster
Forget the hyperdrive quattro versions. This honest, no frills TT is one of the best you can buy.
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Afaque commented on this article
13 August 2009
That looks like a Lotus Exige...
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