06 October 2009 - 11:00
Toyota in actually-quite-exciting shocker!
Last year, we reported that Toyota and Subaru were collaborating to develop a lightweight, rear-wheel-drive coupe. We were excited.
And now our excitement has reached the heady level of In A Bit of A Tizz, because here it is: the Toyota FT-86, set to debut at the Tokyo motor show later this month.
The FT-86 is labelled a concept, but is expected to reach the road in 2011 alongside a Subaru-badged version.
It's powered by Subaru's 2.0-litre boxer engine, which puts out 146bhp in current production form but should develop slightly more in future iterations.
As we're well aware, the four-pot can be turbocharged to produce monstrous power outputs, but that would also put the price up: Toyota and Subaru are aiming to keep the cost as low as possible to attract younger drivers to the brand. The coupes should weigh in well under £20,000 when they go on sale in the UK.
The FT-86 has a 2+2 seating configuration and measures 416cm in length, just a fraction longer than the Audi TT and around 18cm shorter than the Lotus Evora.
We'll find out much more about the FT-86 - and, perhaps, its Subaru counterpart - in Tokyo in a couple of weeks' time.
For now a quick show of hands: who reckons Toyota might finally be rediscovering its mojo?
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Some nifty LF-A detailing blends in nicely with a dash of Scion tC mixed in with Subaru flavoured engines. I'm salivating.
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Awesome, looks sexy.
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Looks great! Now just add the Subaru badge, AWD and a turbo and it would be awesome!
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My hand's up for 'yes, this hopefully is a reMOJOfication of Toyota' by the way.
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They better work their 'nads off to make this worthy of the 86 chassis number.
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Word wst50, word.
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super sexy!! i want one!!
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You can see it in our favourite Computer game here... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oOXdKcdpZ8&feature=player_embedded C.
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put a HUGE turbo on it and it would be great!!!!!!!!!!
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Isn't having had mojo a prerequisite for rediscovering it?
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About time Toyota did something interesting. I was in a showroom the other day and it hit me; no Supra, No Celica, No Mister 2. Not even a GTI rival. All I could see was a little fridge freezer and something with 8 inch wheels that ran on electricity. Yawn. This new Coupe looks great though!
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it looks great, but that front headlamp looks a lot like the one on the 350Z
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Toyota seems to be going the right way to get their mojo back. The new Avensis (and *whisper it* maybe even the Prius) looks a lot better than the previous model, and now this! It looks very good indeed, but as wst50 pointed out, they better make sure it's as good as the Trueno. Even if Toyota doesn't quite deliver, the guys at Subaru will make sure their version kicks ass.
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Does look quite nice. Wouldn't mind one at all.
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Only a twin-turbo straight six engine will do that car justice.
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luckily i live in america, and that means this car will definitely be offered with a v6 here. preferably the 3.5 liter unit from the evora/camry/highlander. that, rear wheel drive, and a manual gearbox plus toyota/subaru legendary reliability, and quality will surely make this an amazing car
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IS IT THE NEW CILECA?
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This would look soooo good in convertible shape. Make a topless version please :).
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Arse off a v8 vantage, roof off a gtr, front off an s2000/isf, not really a new car but rather a blended version of cars from the present/past.
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Arse off a v8 vantage, roof off a gtr, front off an s2000/isf, not really a new car but rather a blended version of cars from the present/past.
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WHAT? A desirable Toyota? Even for an Ford/Alfa-Romeo-fan like me? I thought asking Toyota to make an desirable car would be the same thing as asking a death/black-metal band to make good music, impossible in other words.
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won't Toyota brig back the Celica? though i never had that car but the Celica through the years brings an affordable tune-able sports car to the masses . . . this car could pass for a Celica . . .
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This is the FT-86 concept and the previous Celica was the XYR concept. By the time it comes with a price tag it might well be called a Celica.
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It's also the dialled down version of the FT-HS concept, so it looks more like that than anything else.
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This Toyobaru does not look superb, just "nice", actually... I prefer the looks of the last Celica. But then you get to see the interior, and you forget about the things you don't like about the exterior (it looks right from the front, it looks totally gorgeous from the back, and it looks utterly rubbish from the sides) and start to think "yes, I actually like this car as a whole".
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This MUST be the spiritual successor to the Toyota AE86 made famous by Keiichi "Dorikin" Tsuchiya and Initial D. There mere fact it's called Hachi-Roku (Eight-Six) and a 150bhp 4-pot makes it that. If it's high-revving and lightweight, I want it! In white with a black bonnet and yellow foglights! It also reminds me of the FT-HS Concept from 2005. The high-concept interior os awesome too.
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Brilliant! It's about time someone took this step and brought back a fairly cheap RWD coupe... take note VW, Hyundai and Ford etc. There's been nothing in this catogory for over 20 years.
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All of the essential elements are combining to form one deadly sports car. But...the rear end, a catastrophic mistake. Two words: Dodge Intrepid; look it up and cry with me.
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All of the essential elements are combining to form one deadly sports car. But...the rear end, a catastrophic mistake. Two words: Dodge Intrepid; look it up and cry with me.
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thats quite an ugly car. put an alfa brera beside it and its beat on looks, put an audi a5 beside it and its just beat, even the audi a5 diesel is better than this.
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ford should hurry up with a new capri the car you always promised yourself
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The new Ford Carpi wont be a Capri MKIV but more like a Probe MkII and it will look like a bloody Focus with a slightly lower roof and no doubt be available with a bunch of gutless diesel engines electric power steering and FWD. Ford need to take a look at this Toyota/Subaru and make a proper mans car with a proper engine, long bonnet, low roof and RWD.
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Love the car but 1 thing wrong with it some chav is going to buy 1 and make it look like a peice of turd
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I quite like that it's a bit of small GT-R, wellat lest it's notmlike any other Japanese conpct cars which i don't like because they got alot of furertureisic desgin and gadjets.
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oh yes i hope they make this it's lovely, but with a more powerful engine.. 2.0l 146hp, you can get 146hp from a Golf Variant or worse
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Erm, looks like Toyota, Subaru and Lexus all had a hand in this...
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Toyota need to start making sports cars again. This is a good start, looks amazing!
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the back looks like a nissan 370Z. i'm not too sure about the front........especially the headlights, they are a bit.............mmmmhh. looks way more sharp than it's actually going to be(driving wise). be reliable though...!
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Hachi Roku anyone? Accessible to the younger market is good, but like wst50 said, it better live up to the legend.
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Not bad at all - kind of like a baby Lexus LF-A. It's hard to tell from that angle but I worry that the high bodyline might make it look a bit under-wheeled no matter what rims you hang on it.There's no way the boxer is the right engine for it though, it demands a lightweight, responsive and high-revving V6.
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In the future... My wife will enjoy the 2 Seater Honda CRZ and I'll have a black FT86. I give Mr. Toyoda the tip of my hat. He has finally pulled the trigger on a cheap good handling RWD for the people that doesn't look fugly. Now to prevent the FT86 from being phased out...PEOPLE NEED TO BUY IT INSTEAD OF OTHER BORING CARS.
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For under £20G, a VW Golf GTi or this baby supercar. Hmmm, that's a thinker.
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It looks like an RX-8 with an 'Irresistible Force' at the top and an 'Immoveable Object' at the bottom.
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I like it. but seems under-powered for 20K like some people said
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I normally dislike the looks of asian sport cars, thought they are a bit vulgar, but this one is class, hell yea.
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I thought it was mighty good on Toyota to pay Subaru their due respect by using their signature grille design theme, plus the car doesn't only have the looks to back it up but a lot of substance which is totally Tops!
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Plus it's going to be in GranTurismo 5... ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7oOXdKcdpZ8 )
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Excellent, its nice to see an affordable rear drive coupe, Bored as hell of all these manufacturers producing cheap hot hatches with front wheel drive, I aprove, a lot. Drift car for the masses?
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I've said that toyota have just gone boring and don't make any exciting cars anymore because even the 'hot' yaris and auris are pathetic but I take it all back, that looks fantastic. i'm looking forward to driving it and the CR-Z : )
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that looks awesome and id buy it
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Coolest cd-player ever!! Looks good but not as good as TT.
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Hopefully it's the replacement to the celica, needs to be more powerful though, i had 160bhp in my 1.6 CR-X del sol. Come on Toyota
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Man, does that zipper hiding the dvd/cd slot make me horny
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Who cares? What is the relevance? This "car" company hasn't built a decent product in a decade. As far as I am concerned they can just rill over and dye. Now, Nissan and Mazda...
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They will be BONKERS if they dont bring this little scorcher out, for that price and the Subaru engine they cannot fail, and the Stig by the way was unearthed from a secret cavern beneath the Malvern Hills by the Morgan Cavers brushed down and transported to the top gear track.
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I read somehwere that the power output will be around 200bhp.
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It looks like it's going to be brilliant.. who in their right mind is ever going to buy a hot Civic or Golf etc when this thing exists! I've already started saving up!!
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The dash show the Fuji racetrack... I'd love it on my car, but I'm not that sure it will help me going faster to work...
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It looks just like a new z from the front. Way to go Toyota.
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Sorry it looks exactly like a Z. compare photos.
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Sorry it looks exactly like a Z. compare photos.
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It looks NOTHING like a Nissan 370Z. The headlights are totally different, the grille is a different shape, the entire car is a different shape. The only Nissan-like lines are the front wheelarch-into-side-crease and the blacked out A-Pillars - which are on the GT-R, not the Z. Perhaps it looks similar if you have very lazy eyesight. It looks far more like Toyota's previous FT Concept from 2005, which makes sense.
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146hp?!ONLY146?!!?!?!?!?!?!??!?!??!?!??!?!?!??! WHAT TOYOTA SOULD DO IS MAKE A NEW SUPRA TO COMPETE WITH THE NISSAN GT-R!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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awesome!! i want it!
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merkur - It all comes down to bhp to weight in metric tonne ratio so if it's light enough 146bhp wouldn't be too bad. What I understood though is that 146bhp is what the engine produces now but it probably will be upgraded for this.
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FINALLY!!!!!! toyota going back to its roots with a real wheel 2 2 coupe like the original celicas. its everything is should be: light, cheap to buy, not too powerful but with lots of moding potenial and looks great. bravo we have been waiting 30 years for this day
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btw ill bet any money that the suby version will come with a massive turbo, cost about as much as a 370Z and be UGLY AS F***! so id just buy this one
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Toyota isn't going back to its roots. farting flat 4's don't belong in a Toyota period. I don't care if it has umphteen hundred hp.. Toyota roots are heavy breathing -G series headed engines. Been waiting 13years for a RWD Toyota sports car and this is what they want me to buy? Toyota has seriously missed the boat.. may as well call this a Scion xS.. and the S is for s*^t..
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seems 2 me that this is abit of a fuss about nothing i dont like it!
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I think this car looks awesome!! Reminds you abit of the AE-86. If it handles anything like it, it's going to be the perfect car to have some great fun in. Good choice of motor aswell, this should be popping up all over the drift scene when its out.
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Its great to see Toyota (Australia's most reliable car brand) is making an effort for the 4 pot enthusiast. Everyone here is bemoaning the low power output, but did the original Celica have all that much grunt? Not really. This concept has got everyone drooling over the bolt-on options. Maybe TRD could get a head start.
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Cars Awesome. Although it lacks power. Put a built twin turbo SUPRA engine in it and it would be an unstoppable car(considering it is only rear wheel drive..) the supra weighed much more and would still push 190!!!!
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God Toyota sure has lost its balls!?Im not even sure if they even know what a sports car is these days?Toyota needs to start building the cars they had in the 1980s!!! LIKE IT OR NOT RETRO DESIGNED CARS ARE HERE TO STAY! SO MAKE THEM LOOK LIKE THEY DID THEN!!! IF THEY SOLD WELL AND PUT YOU ON THE MAP THEN THE SAME IS STILL TRUE!!! if you make a retro supra or celica {flip lights included} ILL BUY 3 OF THEM! You can even use THE SAME BODY you had back then! A 1970 BOSS 302 Mustang doesnt go out of style! NEITHER DOES A 1985 MKII SUPRA P-TYPE!!!!!!!!!!! just look at this one! http://www.malibyte.net/Supra/85supra.html {MORE EXAMPLES HERE!}- http://jassics.ning.com/
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HI MIASHISS! you sir are a RETARD nobody likes those hideus 80's cars GTFO clown
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I love it.... and can't wait to get one!!!
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Thats some pretty poor power. The standard blacktop 4age has more than that and its only a 1600cc. They should make a complete toyota version and equip it with the 3s-ge or 3s-gte.
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If you are excited about the new Toyota FT-86 or would like to learn more about it, come discuss it with us at initialFT86.com, the online forum for the Toyota FT-86! http://www.initialft86.com
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airbuggy commented on this article
06 October 2009
ok.about the car well,it looks like toyota's trying to take a dig at nissan's GT-R,'coz it all looks very similar.but who cares,it's like a poorman's GT-R!
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